Before Jamaicans came to NYC there was Blues, Soul and Jazz music among Black Americans. Wikipedia states “Jamaican born DJ Clive “Kool Herc” Campbell is credited as being highly influential in the pioneering stage of hip hop music, in the Bronx, after moving to New York at the age of thirteen. Herc created the blueprint for hip hop music and culture by building upon the Jamaican tradition of toasting—impromptu, boastful poetry and speech over music—which he witnessed as a youth in Jamaica…. Rapping is derived from the griots (folk poets) of West Africa, and Jamaican-style toasting.” Although Wikipedia should have stated that Jamaican-style toasting was derived of griots which is of West Africa. Wikipedia can’t be trusted all together anyway.
Homo Eroticism in Hip Hop and Rap Music& Culture.
Homo-Eroticism looks like “LL Cool J with no shirt on, big ten belt buckle”…etc. Showing black men as “strong, naked, greased up”, pants on with no belts, almost like “God-Like objects.” Like the documentary says it’s not just women that are looking at that, gay men are looking at that also. A lot of it is taken from the cultures in American prisons. In prison they don’t have belts on, pants are fallen down, which makes it easier for men to rape other men while in prison. Black American males getting raped by black American males while in prison, things like that don’t happen in Jamaica because it is an extremely homophobic country. Why did prison have any influence on hip hop culture when black American males go to prison there is no women so some of them end up raping other men or being raped by other men. I have to agree there is deep and profound homo-eroticism in hip hop culture, and it is looked at as ok or normal. Glorifying prison culture in hip hop culture is glorifying male bonding because when males go to jail they are going to be in jail cells along with other males, with no females around. In my opinion there is too much male bonding or a concentrated overemphasis on male bonding in the hip hop culture ongoing to this day.
Hip hop male artistes may say things like
“Me and ma home boy…”
“Me and ma homies…”
There is a lot of “me and ma boy” going on here,”not much about the woman.” All of that, men under the notion of bonding men at the expense of their very own bragging that they are straight, at the expense of women who are trying to get with a man who pledge being an heterosexual. So in hip hop culture men glorifying male bonding to each other, and degrading women at the same time betrays women or push women aside, can be seen as homosexual in its own right. To the point that I believe that some black American women are contemplating whether or not these dudes are homosexual/bisexual or heterosexual. The betrayal, degradation, objectification of women by men in hip hop is a direct opposition to the heterosexual allegiance front that so many of these rappers put on.
Black American males in hip hop culture may try to cling on to a bond with other males at the expense of their proposed “heterosexual allegiance to females.” I can cite many many countless examples of this but for the sake of keeping this post short I will site one. My experience with this on a personal level with FK(a dude I was interested in) as been when I went all the way to the Bronx to see him and he kept telling me to not touch him the whole time. The first time was kind of interesting I interpreted that as him pushing me aside to bond with a male(who was a complete stranger) that was sitting across from us at another table. This to me was kind of a mixture of culture shock, and betrayal of the strong feelings I had of him in the beginning. Like I said there was also a mixture of him pushing my feelings for him aside, or look at it in a more general way, males hurting or betraying a female in order to bond with a male. The second time he said that to me was almost like the first time, pushing aside having an emotional connection and closeness with a female to “looking good” in front of a male, except there wasn’t a male present the second time. It shows the black American male sometimes act like that even when there are no males around shows how deeply embedded this is in the subconscious mind that they do it without even thinking or questioning it. Males trying to “look good” in front of another male/other males can be interpreted as homosexuality/bisexual in it’s own right. Since that experience I have been wondering about his sexual orientation. Wondering if he’s a chi chi man(Jamaican word for homosexual), I had some confusion, but now I am sure that it may all have something to do with Homo-eroticism in hip hop Black American male culture. It’s the little things that matter, the little things. Every time I pick up little things there is always a bigger picture to that. Anyway,when it comes to Jamaican men I don’t have to doubt or contemplate their sexual-orientation or call that into question, because that’s apart of the culture. So you see a drastic shift from Hip Hop being started by Jamaican immigrants in the Bronx to Black Americans twisting that up and adding some of their own stuff to hip hop. And hip hop to some degree as taken on a life of it’s own separate from it’s original makers who are Jamaican immigrants. If you look at this video when Byron Hurt asked the Black American drag queens if they are bothered by “homophobia” in rap music one of them said that it turns him on, when asked why, he said because “it’s so aggressive,” “it’s just a big front in front of their boys.”
When Hip Hop male artistes say “I like girls girls girls girls girls I do adore…” If you like girls you don’t actually have to say that you like girls.
P-Diddy’s “I Need a Girl.” In the song, he says, “you were more than my girl, we were like brothers,” is another example of homo-eroticism in Hip hop culture.
“Hoes…hoes…hoes.” If you don’t want your wife or future wife or daughters to be seen as a hoe then a lot of rappers should take their lyrics into consideration, or be more aware of what they are doing and act like they know what they’re doing especially when interviewed.
When males in hip hop put on this notion that they only want women for sex, is an example of the male trying to prove something to other males, can be seen as homo-eroticism. Cause obviously when male hip hop artiste degrade women in their lyrics they are not trying to “look good” in front of females they are trying to “look good” in front of other males. Males trying to look a certain way in front of other males in hop hop, at the expense of them claiming to be straight, is an example of Homo-eroticism. What woman who respects themselves wants to constantly over and over again listen to lyrics from men who are degrading women? Constantly degrading women in general can be interpreted as you not ever actually having any authentic attraction and connection to a woman, and is an example of homo-eroticism.
You tube comments, below, about this video that I have to agree with.
“Most rappers now are Bi-Sexual (GAY), thats why they have so many WOMEN (bitches, as they say) around them, cuz they have LOW self-esteem and they need to cover up the fact that they GAY!!! If they were not big artists, no girl would deal with most of them.” [I especially agree with this one.]
“One sure sign of homosexuality in hip hop is the degredation of women. This the darkest before the storm. It’s where the homosexual thug hides before he makes the full shift. If he’s bragging about how many women he’s had foregoing making a real connection AND degrading her and expoiting her then yes, it’s a sign of homosexuality.”
“drake, wayne, kanye, and every other skinny jean wearing rappers that look more like women than women do now, so its slidding into the industry if you dont think those rappers are gay or some you have been fooled.”
“Strange that when they discuss homoeroticism in hip-hop they only mention shirtless rappers and don’t mention the blatant homoeroticism of prison-sexuality type rhymes where dudes tell other dudes to suck their dicks, lick their nuts, bend over, etc. Hip-hop lyrics are replete with gay sex acts.”
“This documentary exposed a lot about the alleged “thug mentality” among the rappers. Yes they have as M. Dyson puts it, “homo erotic” behavior going on. Telling another man to suck his this and that ain’t no where near 100% heterosexual. Something else is wandering around in their minds. It’s not normal. Greek-like body nudity and underwear showing in public shouldn’t be taken lightly. For sure it is a prison influence! “
“Damn that homo erodicism stuff was crazy true lol
“To all rappers shut up with your shutting up/
And keep your shirt on, at least a button up/
Yuck, is they rhymers or stripping males?/
Outta work jerks since they shut down Chippendales/”
— MF Doom, Beef Rapp, MF Doom – MM.. Food? (2004).”
“Homies over Hoes…”
“Philosophy class and in my psychology class ironically, everything actually has an influence. Hip Hop is like a chant, it keeps you interested till it becomes part of you. If “men were to be men” you would see ALL white boys doing this in a primitive way. And think about the black people way back in the 60s, this ignorant bliss would be hurting the ancestors. I actually never seen a black youth today speak of ancestral respects either… The culture has been diluted and now mainstreamed in media.”
“No wonder black women are jumping ship.”
“Busta is Jamaican American and Jamaican culture is very homophobic. It is a ILLEGAL to be gay in Jamaica. It truly is against his culture,. In Jamaica they MURDER homosexuals. It is a cultural thing he really does need to get over it”
These things are issues to be discussed and looked at because there have not been much good representation of men in the black American hip hop community. A future post is going to be a discussion on how Homo-Eroticism entered Hip Hop culture in the first place. I have long noticed homo-eroticism in rap music that’s why I stopped listening to rap music for 2 years.